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The 8th World Water Forum will have Water and People as one of its central themes, focusing on access to water, sanitation in all its aspects, and water and health issues. In order to reach that, three topics have been set to comprise the debate questions under People. The following topics should split into Thematic Sessions and other debate stages during the 8th World Water Forum in 2018:

  1. Enough safe water for all
  2. Integrated sanitation for all
  3. Water and public health

Considering the above topics about People – Water Sanitation and Health:      

  1. What are the major challenges under each topic that concern civil society and communities and need to be raised for debate during the 8th World Water Forum?
  2. How those challenges apply to problems in your city, community or neighbouring surroundings?

Your feedback is going to support the organisation instances of the Forum in the definition of Thematic Sessions and other opportunities for debate during the event.

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Diana Iskreva's picture

Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Minani,

Thank you for raising the issue of hygiene and behaviour that had not been discussed in details on this platform yet; and the affordability of the such measures with enormous positive effect on human health.

I would take the liberty to emphasise on the importance and affrodability of handwashing that had not been mentioned yet here and that is of enormous contribution to disease prevention and eradication.

Do we have handwashing facilities in each school toilet, in each medical center toilet, in each public diner, etc.?

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Beatriz Martins... said:

Car@s participantes,

Incentivamos que utilizem a sala Pessoas para abordar temas estratégicos e problemáticos para sua região, no que tange o acesso universal à água segura em quantidade suficiente; o acesso universal ao saneamento integrado; e água e saúde pública. As discussões compartilhadas neste espaço contribuirão para a formação dos diversos painéis do evento.

É uma ótima oportunidade de influenciar a agenda de um evento global e chamar a atenção para problemas complexos que precisam de soluções conjuntas.

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Amelia said:

The spacing went wrong , can moderator please adjust. I hope this  answerss your  questions:

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Hassan Aboelnga replied:

Hi Amelia, 

thanks so much for your contribution. I think you could delete/edit the post. otherwise, I could delete it if you want in 24 hrs from now.

Regards

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Amelia said:

Here are some Caribbean projects that could be replicated for other regions and countries if funding is secured: Thisis an excerpt from a paper prpepared for the CARICOM Secretariat:...Read more

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Amelia,

Though I did my best to fix the spacing of your post, anyway it will continue to be difficult for reading as it is a really long article - too long and containing various type of info that makes it difficult to be discussed at this platform.

Please, consider a more reader-friendly approach next time.

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Olá Amélia,

Conforme colocado pelo Hassan, acredito que você mesam consegue editar seu post. Caso tenha alguma dificuldade nos avise, abraços.

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Amelia said:

here are some projects involving partnerships that might be relevant, they are from the research I did on Lima. Peru during the online study programme in 2012 which completed successfully:To meet the water and sanitation needs of the poor at an affordable price, in 2001, a water transfer project from the neighboring basin of Misicuni was initiated. In April 2005, (shared with Bolivia) the project will be developed in three stages and is expected to provide 20,000 l/sec at the end of the third phase. A complimentary project also created a water consortium, which provides access to low-cost drinking water and sanitation in poor suburban areas....Read more

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Olá Amélia, obrigada por compartilhar estas inciativas conosco. Quais são, na sua opinião os principais desafios inerentes a estas parcerias? E, se voce tivesse que eleger um ou dois dos temas que elas enfocam para ser debatido em painel no 8th WWF, qual seria?

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Amelia said:

 Hola Beatriz y  los otros,,

 Water Management Needs in La Nueva Rinconda (NR, Peru) is the title of the study but it was only a  component done by students of a postgraduate certificate course at a British University and cannot be published without authorisation.

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peter sunday said:

Challenges are lack of enough water,poor sanitation and over population. This applies to my community in that it causes diseases such as Cholera and Dysentry.

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Olá Peter! Seja bem-vindo a sala sobre pessoas.

De fato os pontos que está colocando são gargalos muito importantes. Poderia descrever melhor como eles se estabelecem na sua região? Seria ótimo se pudesse nos contar mais sobre os impactos na vida das pessoas, em casa e no trabalho, bem como possíveis soluções.

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peter sunday said:

 sent a detailed paper.( Enviro consults Uganda)

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Caro Peter, parece que o material não veio. Seria possível encaminhar por link?

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Amelia said:

Organisation: WAFUNIF.. 

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Amelia said:

in addition,  the 2012 Peru study recommended that better distribution of land rights and removal of taxes and charges  related to water could help resolve the situation of the poor with access to water because acquisition of pipe borne water depended on property/land ownership which also carried the burden of taxation. It seemed to be almost a cycle of impoverishment which the government authorities and water companies need to address. Similar situations and crises compounded by the impact of climate change have been witnessed or reported  in other under- developed countries such as in East Africa where drought has brought the onslought of hunger, starvation and even death....Read more

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Amelia said:

Has week  three commenced? Who is Susan?  Just to share some elments from 2012 study done on water ersources  issue on Peru village. Is there a general consensus that water should be a public good- that is,. that there is a human right to water .... viz. right to development? ( UN Convenant  on Social land Economic Rights) . The Peruvian study showed that the rising cost of water supplied in various forms, including transport costs was a major probem in creating grater access of the poor to water- drinking or for other purposes- because of the dry weather patterns in that area of Peru. 

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Olá Amélia,

Sim, a terceira semana começou. Muito obrigada pela sua contribuição. De fato, injustamente o acesso a água é restrito a populações vulneráveis em diversas partes do mundo. Você poderia, por gentileza, compartilhar o estudo que está citando neste espaço? Parcerias público/privadas com foco em acesso à agua podem ser, certamente, uma possível saída neste cenário. Você acredita que este poderia ser um bom tema de painel no evento? além disso, teria algum exemplo deste tipo de parceria que deu certo em sua região?

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Hassan Aboelnga said:

Dear All,

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peter sunday replied:

I sent a paper kindly help incorporate it on my e disscusion

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fernando cintra... replied:

Dear Hassan and All,

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Fernando,
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Hassan Aboelnga replied:

Thanks Fernando for raising those issues. The core theory of change for sustainable programmes looks at three key components or 'pillars' required for change: the creation of demand through community empowerment and behaviour change, and improving supply chain and the enabling environment.

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Olá Fernando,

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fernando cintra... replied:

Hello all.

It is great hearing replies from you to my post. For me, it is the only way strait-up in sanitation indexes. With people empowerment and bigger conscious about the impact of sanitation in public healf, education and (at the end) productivity, the improvements achieved can't be loose.

I feel that the 8WWF would be a great chance for us to make an experiance exchance room or a round table with big players (media, especialists, sector associations, policy makers, iex.) in tecnical comunication and media appeal.

Regards, Fernando.

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fernando cintra... replied:

Oi Beatriz, boa noite.

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Fernando,

Dear Beatriz,

Maybe we - the PEOPLE e-room, can suggest a workshop for water and sanitation professionals to train them to work with media and capture media attention?

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fernando cintra... replied:

Hello Diana.

I just suggest (in reply for the first few comments of my post) a round table or something similar that could provide experience exchance in media appeal for sanitation, but a tecnical training workshop could be even better. May be the two things can play complementary roles...

Maybe start with an e-forum that give material for the exchance ideas room, or round table, where lots of people can get some insights for the day-today practice and, following that, a workshop to train workes from public relationship department or sector associations to capture media and public attention.

What do you think?

Reagards, Fernando.

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Beatriz Martins... replied:

Oi Fernando,

Com certeza. Acho bastante interessante o WWF abordar a comunicação de assuntos  - que muitas vezes possuem um vocabulário próprio - para o grande público. Acho que o Fórum pode ser um local de troca de boas práticas neste sentido, demonstrando como este tipo de comunicação pode ser mais direta e assim inspirar a mudança comportamental e o engajamento, essenciais para alcançarmos o ODS 6.

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fernando cintra... replied:

Olá Beatriz e colegas do saneamento.

Comentei acima algumas sugestões e respostas que recebi, mas gostei muito de como você precisamente definiu o que eu estava imaginando. Poderia ser uma sala/painel para troca de boas práticas!

Imagino que talvez os resultados desse painel de boas práticas em comunicação sobre saneamento possam se transformar em um workshop de treinamento ou um documento de diretrizes para aumento da persuasão e da capacidade de mobilizar e conscientizar a população sobre aspectos relativos a saneamento, higiene e saide pública.

O que acha?

Atenciosamente, Fernando.

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F H Mughal said:

Dear Diana,

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Mughal,
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f-f-a.info said:

Could you estimate the scale of the problems?

What approximate percentage of communities in different countries facing such problems:

  • lack of access to clean water,
  • lack of sanitary sewer,
  • difficult access,
  • prohibitive price,
  • insufficient knowledge about hygiene.

I would like to do a summary on http://f-f-a.info/situation/

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear f-f-a,

Welcome to the People's e-room!

Actually, the scale of the problem had not been discussed yet globally and regionally into this electronic platform. Please, feel free to elaborate and to give suggestions how 8th World Water Forum can contribute positively to the issue you raise.

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f-f-a.info replied:

Hi

Overall assessment of access to water and sanitation can be found on https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/campaign/peoples-report-card/

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Thanks.

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Hassan Aboelnga said:

Thanks so much all of you for your insights and comments in a week of discussion. I will try to provide a brief summary from last week.  We had many voices emanating from different contexts and perspectives. We had a diverse discussion on water and sanitation challenges in terms of social perspectives. Disabilities are likely to experience a lack of access to safe water and sanitation and they are particularly vulnerable in emergency and humanitarian situations. In some areas, access to safe water is a matter of survival and the importance of water can never be overemphasized....Read more

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Hassan,

Thank you for your summary. With the advancement of the discussion, summaries are getting more and more valuable and helpful for the new participants or for these that happen to miss couple of days or a week to get quickly informed about the new posts and most discussed topics.

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Davi Silva Fagundes said:

Prezados Moderadores, Bom Dia!

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Mr. Fagundes,

You are most welcome to make a link between your results and the World Water Forum!

Please, share into this e-room your results closely connected with the topic we discuss here:

  1. Enough safe water for all;
  2. Integrated sanitation for all;
  3. Water and public health.
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Davi Silva Fagundes replied:

Dear Diana, Good morning!

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Prof. Fagundes,
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F H Mughal said:

One important point that is, quite often, given low priority is the behavioural change. This is especially important in the field of sanitation. At the World Water Forum 6, held in Marseille, which I attended, had a session on behavioural change.

Consider this: in the rural areas of Sindh, Pakistan, the village women consider feces of infants as harmless. Consequently, they do not wash their hands after cleaning babies. I suggest that the World Water Forum 8 should continue to work on behavioural change, by developing more effective advocacy strategies.

F H Mughal

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Mughal,

Thank you for raising the issue of behavioural change. It usually take generations of lifespan to overcome certain traditional believes, practices, taboos. Some of these are also linked to menstrual taboos. One cannot believe how persistent some proven to be really harmful for human health practices continue to exist in various places in the world - like the situation you talk about.

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Evans Tembo (MP... said:

Dear all,Water and sanitation progress reporting has only concentrated on urban and rural areas (even in the UNICEF/WHO JMP WASH progress reports). In southern africa, increased urbanisation has led to an upswing of unplanned settlements where most people in urban areas are actually living. For instance, about 60% of the population of Lusaka (Zambia) live in Peri-Urban where access to safe water and adequate sanitation has been a big problem. This means that the high coverage of watsan services may entail that all the high cost residential areas are well services and the peri-urbans are being under-serviced...Read more

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Evans,

Luckily, there are also people who work among the poorest among poor who survive in the ghettos and shantytowns. Obviously, not enough attention is paid to the challenges these groups of people face, and unfortunately, the number of the families living in such areas is rapidly growing as you rightly point out.

In the context of the Human right to safe water and sanitation, the issue you raise deserves special attention. Can you suggest how the challenges faced by the inhabitants of the ghettos could be addressed by the 8th World Water Forum?

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kassimou Issotina said:

My name is Kassimou Issotina, Executive Director of ICA Benin. Our NGO is working on water and sanirarion issues in rural areas of Benin since 2006.

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Kassimou,

You are most welcome to the People e-room. It is the place we discuss such issues that your organisation raises and works on in its everyday engagements.

Please, will you suggest the best way your observations and experience to become one of the sessions of the World Water Forum in Brasilia?

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kassimou Issotina replied:

Dear Diana

thank you for your comments about our organization's work in Benin.Itb will be a great pleasure for us to see our experiences becoming a theme of one session for next Worlde Water Forum. Now I dont know the criteria for this opportunity. Pease can you advice us for this?

We can provide all the necessary information for that

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Diana Iskreva replied:

Dear Kassimou,

At this phase of the discussion the big task is to define as many sessions as possible. The report from our discussion at this phase will be made in April and presented to the 2nd Stakeholders meeting 3rd week of April. With all the feedback from the 2nd Stakeholders meeting, we shall start the next round of discussions in this e-room.

So, it is now the time to justify certain thems for sessions and your capacity to organize/contribute to such sessions.

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